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HEMISFEAR
12-18-08, 09:02.58 PM
I mean seriously, WTF!? Seems like the term "Greed" has been floating around more and more each day with these Rich fucks who just can't get enough.


Brazen fraud ensnares well-known investors and nonprofits and gives hedge funds another black eye.
Robert Lenzner - Forbes.

The shocking revelation that prominent investment manager Bernard Madoff's hedge fund, Ascot Partners, was a giant scam will intensify redemptions from scores of other hedge funds that will be forced to liquidate holdings and increase downward pressure on stock prices.

This additional negative influence on the market, together with liquidations by mutual funds facing redemptions and endowments facing the need for liquidity, are three significant barriers for optimism about the direction of stock prices in the near term.

The arrest of the 70-year-old Madoff, widely considered to have the magic touch as an investor, is another serious black eye for the hedge fund industry and all non-transparent investment vehicles. Investors across the New York area have clamored to be in Ascot because of the stability of double-digit returns and the reports of serious wealth creation. The scandal is bound to reveal the inner workings of the hedge fund industry, whereby intermediary feeders bring in their clients and take fees for putting clients with an investment manager.

If Madoff hadn't faced $7 billion in redemptions, this Ponzi scheme might not have been discovered. What's astonishing is that he got away with it for so long with nobody discovering it. What his four family members in Ascot knew is a puzzle that everyone wants answered, but one thing is certain: It's virtually impossible to have returns like Madoff reported, and it should have been a major warning signal.

Aside from the impact on stocks overall, the exposure of fraud on a massive scale is also devastating to individuals who trusted Madoff with their fortunes and to nonprofit organizations like Yeshiva University, which counted on Madoff's purported secret trading system to help operate its institutions. Sterling Equities, the investment vehicle of the Wilpon family, which owns the New York Mets baseball team, had $300 million reportedly invested in Ascot. So did some wealthy investors who had money in related hedge funds who were never informed of ties to Ascot. Another private bank executive placed $10 million from a client just two weeks ago. He knew of another family that had $100 million with Madoff. A woman in California told us that she had lost everything with Madoff and another hedge fund.

Everyone in New York wants to know how Madoff could have pulled off this Ponzi scheme whereby these new investment funds were apparently used to pay double-digit returns to some of the older investors. A charitable account that operates institutions in Israel received a 12% return recently. Other individual investors report that they got nothing.

HEMISFEAR
12-19-08, 07:15.06 AM
What's even worse is he get's house arrest in his Park Avenue luxury condo/ap. If someone steals a watch they'd still be sitting in the can. Total bullshit. White Collar Crime.

markus
12-19-08, 08:28.53 AM
for the right price i can make that guy disappear

NYCSRTATE
12-19-08, 07:06.35 PM
If I see this scumbag in Manhattan walking around he is getting body slammed and im not kidding, ill be on all the papers and news and jail but fuck it, hopefully one of the people he scammed has some money to bail me out.

This scumbag deserves to die not rot in jail.

HEMISFEAR
12-19-08, 07:13.49 PM
If I see this scumbag in Manhattan walking around he is getting body slammed and im not kidding, ill be on all the papers and news, fuck it.

This scumbag deserves to die not rot in jail.

Couldn't agree more. Did you see when one of the photogs pushed him back as he was walking down the street with that stupid fuckin' grin on his face? That very nearly deserved a co-co butt to the nose lol.

NYCSRTATE
12-19-08, 07:15.35 PM
Couldn't agree more. Did you see when one of the photogs pushed him back as he was walking down the street with that stupid fuckin' grin on his face? That very nearly deserved a co-co butt to the nose lol.

I agree.

Just wait, the feds when this is all said and done are going to arrest 1/4 of Wall street for this. No way this scumbag acted alone.

HEMISFEAR
12-24-08, 11:02.21 AM
I'm surprised this is the first one.

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-fi-ma...tory?track=rss

Madoff investor found dead of suicide



Associated Press
2:49 PM PST, December 23, 2008

NEW YORK -- The founder of an investment fund that lost $1.4 billion with Bernard Madoff was discovered dead today after committing suicide at his Madison Avenue office, marking a grim turn in a scandal that has left investors around the world in financial ruin.

Rene-Thierry Magon de la Villehuchet was found sitting at his desk at about 8 a.m. with both wrists slashed, New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne said. A box cutter was found on the floor along with a bottle of sleeping pills on his desk. No suicide note was found.


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FULL COVERAGE: Madoff scheme

De la Villehuchet was one of several fund managers to be hit hard in Madoff's alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme. Investment funds that lost big to Madoff are also facing backlash and investor lawsuits for not protecting their clients from the alleged fraud.

It is not immediately known what kind of scrutiny de la Villehuchet was facing over his Madoff losses through his Access International Advisors, located a couple of blocks from Rockefeller Center.

But on Monday night, he told cleaning crews in his building that he wanted them out of his office by 7 p.m. because he was going to be working late.


Workers returned Tuesday morning and found the door locked. He was later discovered dead at his desk, with a garbage can placed near his body to apparently catch the blood, Browne said.

De la Villehuchet was a prominent investor who came from a long line of aristocratic Frenchmen, with the Magon part of his name referring to one of France's most powerful families.

The Magon name is even listed on the Arc de Triomphe in Paris, a world-famous monument that was commissioned by Napoleon in 1806.

His fund enlisted intermediaries with links to the cream of Europe's high society to garner clients. Among them was Philippe Junot, a French businessman and friend who is the former husband of Princess Caroline of Monaco, and Prince Michel of Yugoslavia.

De la Villehuchet, the former chairman and chief executive of Credit Lyonnais Securities USA, was also known as a keen sailor who regularly participated in regattas and was a member of the New York Yacht Club.

He lived in an affluent suburb in Westchester County with his wife. They have no children. There was no answer Tuesday at the family's two-story house.

"He's irreproachable," said Bill Rapavy, who was Access International's chief operating officer before founding his own firm in 2007.

De la Villehuchet's death came as swindled investors began looking for ways to possibly recoup their losses. A handful of lawsuits have already been filed, all claiming that the hedge funds failed to properly vet Madoff and overlooked some red flags that could have steered them away.

HEMISFEAR
03-10-09, 08:42.35 PM
NEW YORK — Bernard Madoff will plead guilty Thursday to 11 criminal counts including money laundering, perjury and securities, mail and wire fraud and will do so without a plea deal, knowing it carries a potential prison term of 150 years, lawyers said Tuesday in court.

Lawyers outlined the plea arrangement for the 70-year-old former Nasdaq chairman that was set to unfold later this week after Madoff waived several potential conflicts of interest between Madoff and his lawyer, Ira Sorkin.

Asked by the judge if Madoff would plead guilty Thursday, Sorkin said: "I think that's a fair expectation."

In papers filed after Tuesday's proceeding, prosecutors outlined the case against Madoff, who quietly spoke in court, answering the questions of U.S. District Judge Denny Chin.

Prosecutors said in the papers that Madoff operated a massive Ponzi scheme in which his clients' funds were misappropriated and converted to the use of Madoff, his business and others.

Chin said he will not sentence Madoff for several months after Thursday's proceedings.

He told prosecutors to limit the number of victims who will be allowed to speak in court to those who want to argue either that Chin not accept the plea, or go against what Chin plans to decide as to whether Madoff should remain free on bail after Thursday's hearing.

Chin also said anyone addressing the court will be limited in time and must conduct themselves in a "respectful and dignified manner."

Sorkin complained that federal authorities have not let lawyers for Madoff study the financial records of his company so he can show that some individuals or financial funds actually received more in payouts over the years than they are claiming they lost.

Chin said he understood that Madoff was not agreeing to the extent of the losses.

Although authorities have outlined a $50 billion fraud that they say Madoff carried out for many years, those reviewing his company's books say the size of the actual fraud might have been less than $20 billion.

So far, authorities have located about $1 billion for jilted investors.

Sorkin's family had invested more than $900,000 with Madoff. After questioning Madoff, the judge ruled that Sorkin may continue representing Madoff.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/10/madoff-to-plead-guilty-to_n_173631.html

HEMISFEAR
03-10-09, 08:43.11 PM
150 years in prison seems like a fair deal lol.

HEMISFEAR
06-29-09, 06:31.44 PM
150 years in prison seems like a fair deal lol.

Umm, yeahhh.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31604191/ns/business-us_business/?ns=business-us_business

Bernard Madoff was sentenced Monday to 150 years for the multibillion-dollar fraud scheme he perpetrated.

Before the sentencing, Madoff apologized to his family and to the victims of his multibillion-dollar fraud scheme Monday at a hearing for his sentencing for the investment swindle.

DragginWagon
06-29-09, 07:05.37 PM
I say we talk all these fuckers money and pump it back into our economy!