Police mustang busted a new Challenger owner

[The_Main_Event]

Well this morning I95 North of Fort Pierce Florida a black mustang was racing a new Dodge Challenger SRT8. They were both doing well over 120mph. I didnt see them for miles. Then when I caught up to them the police mustang had the Challenger owner in handcuffs. I hope this is not somebody on this site..
So watch out guys if you are in this area because its a black (looks like a boss mustang no lettering or anything) with black wheels and black tints. If it tries to race you dont do it!

[DevssrT]

WOW....Thats just messed up...

[RichieRacer]

what year body style?

[Mag 8]

Sorry, as far as I'm concerned, that's just like a heroin addict baiting another for monetary gain! Fuckas....

[RichieRacer]

hey they got tbss in the city and one of ther higher ups in the nypd has a charger srt8

[Vinnysrt8]

wow that sucks the challenger owner i hope he doesnt lose the car

[paxton]

That's sucks balls! I hope the Mustang didn't bait the Challenger owner into a race then pull him over afterwards. This reminds me of one of the Police Chargers in my area...its only a HO V6, but its completely black, with black steelies and totally blackened out windows. I know not to mess around with it...Hehehehe

[The_Main_Event]

what year body style?

new body style

[Knightrider03m]

The Mustang tried to race it? Its something about that, that seams illegal.

[HEMISFEAR]

That blows. Isn't that entrapment? Even worse it's dangerous as hell and if the cops had anything to do with it and there was an accident, they'd be held just as liable as the Challenger owner. It seems far more likely that the Challenger owner wanted to race the mustang not realizing it was actually a cop. Most of the Chargers here runs the 5.7 and we also had a Jeep SRT8 during one of our summer festivals..not sure if they still have it though. Alot of unmarked cars with v8s. It's no wonder we pay such high taxes in this city.

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[Red02WS6]

Isn't that entrapment?

x2 :cussing:

[Dr.Steve]

believe it or not, the cops in this area are doing it as well. There are a lot of blacked out Malibu's and other fairly inconspicuous rides that will pull up next to a driver and try to rev / get their attention and bait them into a race. Not sure of the legality, but I know it is happening, b/c it's happened to me more than once, lucky I don't race on public roads :D At least not with cops!

[NYCSRTATE]

I heard about this last year.

I just dont see how it stands up in court, your baiting the person to race.

Anyone have any legal info on this?

[markus]

fuckin bullshit dude. fuckin baiting people, thats the crime right there. what if that challenger had wrecked and killed, hurt somebody or even caused property damage? that would be he cops fault for baiting him into it. fuckin faggot bas**** assholes. of course im still a little bitter about my last ticket lol.

[DragginWagon]

thats floriDUH cops for you! fuckin assholes!!!! and they're also making it a hell of a lot easier for shit like this to happen....http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/21/earlyshow/main1425980.shtml

[HEMISFEAR]

It kind of happened here as well. An 18 year old kid was actually driving around in his dad's new 300C (it was in the paper) and was one of the first pinched for the new law on street racing. The paper made it sound like the cop was also revving his engine in an unmarked car and the 300C took off. He was pulled over by 100mph on the highway. WTF? 100 miles per hour? His dad's car was impounded for 7 days, 2000 dollar fine and kid had his license suspended. The next day, it was printed that the cop was not baiting the teen into racing. I think the unmarked car was an Impala.

[Retro]

Isn't that entrapment?

That was my first thought when I read this!!!!!!!

[DragginWagon]

don't you guys know that cops do NOT have to abide by the laws they are sworn to uphold?

[Jeep Trick]

I got pulled over by a cop in a 2nd to last model 1500 Chevy pickup. It was white and plain Jane. I've also seen about everything else too Altimas, Chargers, Mustangs, Volvo's, Expeditions, Older Jeep GC, Pontiacs. All unmarked.

[The_Main_Event]

I saw a chevy malibu unmarked that had sombody pulled over today too.

[cheatek]

Yea the "entrapment" crap about this kinda thing is bs, total BS!!

[MotherM3]

The Mustang tried to race it? Its something about that, that seams illegal.


That blows. Isn't that entrapment? Even worse it's dangerous as hell and if the cops had anything to do with it and there was an accident, they'd be held just as liable as the Challenger owner. It seems far more likely that the Challenger owner wanted to race the mustang not realizing it was actually a cop. Most of the Chargers here runs the 5.7 and we also had a Jeep SRT8 during one of our summer festivals..not sure if they still have it though. Alot of unmarked cars with v8s. It's no wonder we pay such high taxes in this city.

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don't you guys know that cops do NOT have to abide by the laws they are sworn to uphold?

Ha ha ha...

Children, children, children... take your seats... Professor Momo is ready to begin class...

Entrapment, loosely defined is:
"ENTRAPMENT - A person is 'entrapped' when he is induced or persuaded by law enforcement officers or their agents (Momo note: 'agents' can mean an informant or other non-law enforcement officer acting on behalf of law enforcement) to commit a crime that he had no previous intent to commit; and the law as a matter of policy forbids conviction in such a case".

Now, we obviously do not know the background of this story, so who knows... it could have been a vehicle pursuit in progress (Chally was running from the law). We don't know the details.

Basically, law enforcement CAN indeed introduce a situation whereby a person is 'baited' into committing a crime IF there is reasonable suspicion that the person being 'baited' has a predisposed intent to commit said crime. That's one of many important strategies in catching crooks redhanded!

So, if this Chally showed ANY interest in illegally racing on the street and the cop obliged... well, that's what you call a open and close case. As far as the high speeds, I can only assume that it turned into a pursuit or the cop used poor judgement in allowing the speeds to be that excessive before pulling the vehicle over to effect the arrest/detention.

[DragginWagon]

Ha ha ha...



Children, children, children... take your seats... Professor Momo is ready to begin class...

Entrapment, loosely defined is:
"ENTRAPMENT - A person is 'entrapped' when he is induced or persuaded by law enforcement officers or their agents (Momo note: 'agents' can mean an informant or other non-law enforcement officer acting on behalf of law enforcement) to commit a crime that he had no previous intent to commit; and the law as a matter of policy forbids conviction in such a case".

Now, we obviously do not know the background of this story, so who knows... it could have been a vehicle pursuit in progress (Chally was running from the law). We don't know the details.

Basically, law enforcement CAN indeed introduce a situation whereby a person is 'baited' into committing a crime IF there is reasonable suspicion that the person being 'baited' has a predisposed intent to commit said crime. That's one of many important strategies in catching crooks redhanded!

So, if this Chally showed ANY interest in illegally racing on the street and the cop obliged... well, that's what you call a open and close case. As far as the high speeds, I can only assume that it turned into a pursuit or the cop used poor judgement in allowing the speeds to be that excessive before pulling the vehicle over to effect the arrest/detention.

NOOOOOOOOO! Cops don't EVER do that......

[MotherM3]

NOOOOOOOOO! Cops don't EVER do that......

I've used poor judgement before... everyone has.

[Bud]

Ha ha ha...



Children, children, children... take your seats... Professor Momo is ready to begin class...

Entrapment, loosely defined is:
"ENTRAPMENT - A person is 'entrapped' when he is induced or persuaded by law enforcement officers or their agents (Momo note: 'agents' can mean an informant or other non-law enforcement officer acting on behalf of law enforcement) to commit a crime that he had no previous intent to commit; and the law as a matter of policy forbids conviction in such a case".

Now, we obviously do not know the background of this story, so who knows... it could have been a vehicle pursuit in progress (Chally was running from the law). We don't know the details.

Basically, law enforcement CAN indeed introduce a situation whereby a person is 'baited' into committing a crime IF there is reasonable suspicion that the person being 'baited' has a predisposed intent to commit said crime. That's one of many important strategies in catching crooks redhanded!

So, if this Chally showed ANY interest in illegally racing on the street and the cop obliged... well, that's what you call a open and close case. As far as the high speeds, I can only assume that it turned into a pursuit or the cop used poor judgement in allowing the speeds to be that excessive before pulling the vehicle over to effect the arrest/detention.

Beans to you for educating the peanut gallery....meaning Stevo! LOL

[GRRRR8]

The Mustang tried to race it? Its something about that, that seams illegal.

I have beat 2 tickets similiar to this. It is called entrapment. I was cruising by myself and a white Camaro shadows me. I ignore him. He then gets along side of me and starts jacking off the throttle and I just waived him off. We catch a traffic light and he takes off smoking the tires and continues his stupidity. At the next light I laugh at him and give him the finger. The light turns green and I launch with tires in the air instantly putting 10 on him and he hits the grill lights. I slow and let him catch up. I ease over, not stopping and he gets along side and flashes his badge. I told him you have to be fucking kidding me. He baited me for 7.5 miles after I retraced it before court. He said he had video for 15 minutes of me driving recklessly. I told him he had 10sec of video on me. No video, no cop, DISMISSED!
PS I was in a high 10sec Turbo Regal. This is why I never even bothered until he pissed me off!

[paxton]

Ha ha ha...



Children, children, children... take your seats... Professor Momo is ready to begin class...

Entrapment, loosely defined is:
"ENTRAPMENT - A person is 'entrapped' when he is induced or persuaded by law enforcement officers or their agents (Momo note: 'agents' can mean an informant or other non-law enforcement officer acting on behalf of law enforcement) to commit a crime that he had no previous intent to commit; and the law as a matter of policy forbids conviction in such a case".

Now, we obviously do not know the background of this story, so who knows... it could have been a vehicle pursuit in progress (Chally was running from the law). We don't know the details.

Basically, law enforcement CAN indeed introduce a situation whereby a person is 'baited' into committing a crime IF there is reasonable suspicion that the person being 'baited' has a predisposed intent to commit said crime. That's one of many important strategies in catching crooks redhanded!

So, if this Chally showed ANY interest in illegally racing on the street and the cop obliged... well, that's what you call a open and close case. As far as the high speeds, I can only assume that it turned into a pursuit or the cop used poor judgement in allowing the speeds to be that excessive before pulling the vehicle over to effect the arrest/detention.

I don't like the sound of this one bit. Seems like an officer can roll-up to you in some hopped-up car and under HIS reasonable suspicion that your going to fall for his baiting tactics he can proceed to bait you into an illegal activity. Sounds like total BS to me! What determines a reasonable suspicion? Is having a high-performance car with say, loud exhaust, resonable suspicion? I hope it never happens to me cause I'd be PISSED and would probably get my dumbass arrested!

[MotherM3]

I don't like the sound of this one bit. Seems like an officer can roll-up to you in some hopped-up car and under HIS reasonable suspicion that your going to fall for his baiting tactics he can proceed to bait you into an illegal activity. Sounds like total BS to me! What determines a reasonable suspicion? Is having a high-performance car with say, loud exhaust, resonable suspicion? I hope it never happens to me cause I'd be PISSED and would probably get my dumbass arrested!

Reasonable suspicion is 'what's reasonable'... there's no definite to it, per se. I would consider reasonable as the chally was toying with the other vehicle, egging on a race, etc.

Every state has different traffic laws, so who knows... the rule of entrapment and the use of baiting criminals into committing crimes they're predisposed to commit, is something I'm exposed to in the non-traffic violation realm... so I can't say specifically what is allowed in a given state.

[MotherM3]

I have beat 2 tickets similiar to this. It is called entrapment. I was cruising by myself and a white Camaro shadows me. I ignore him. He then gets along side of me and starts jacking off the throttle and I just waived him off. We catch a traffic light and he takes off smoking the tires and continues his stupidity. At the next light I laugh at him and give him the finger. The light turns green and I launch with tires in the air instantly putting 10 on him and he hits the grill lights. I slow and let him catch up. I ease over, not stopping and he gets along side and flashes his badge. I told him you have to be fucking kidding me. He baited me for 7.5 miles after I retraced it before court. He said he had video for 15 minutes of me driving recklessly. I told him he had 10sec of video on me. No video, no cop, DISMISSED!
PS I was in a high 10sec Turbo Regal. This is why I never even bothered until he pissed me off!

That, IMO, is entrapment, given the story/facts told. If on the other hand, YOU were the one doing the egging-on, that's a different story then.

[NYCSRTATE]

That, IMO, is entrapment, given the story/facts told. If on the other hand, YOU were the one doing the egging-on, that's a different story then.

Agreed that is entrapment.

If you egg him on to go then he comes back at you then your screwed.

[Derek]

OOOOOORRRRRRR don't street race.....

[DragginWagon]

One of never ending reasons I hate traffic cops... Back in the late 90's I was taking a friend home at 2 am, No one was on the road but me. This car comes flying up behind me, got so close I couldn't even see his head lights. He tailgated me for atleast 1/2 a mile till finally I speed up to get him of my rear bumper, as soon as I did I see blue lights.

[mikes'ss]

^^^^^^^^thats fucked up i would of fought that one ...

[Derek]

Hows that song go....I fought the law and the.....law won.......I fought the law and the......law won!!! Has anyone every got out of a ticket in court??? I've heard of them getting reduced but never tossed in the trash(I take that back, there is always somebody that knows somebody but everyone knows that cost $$$ too). After all, someones gotta pay them court fees!!!

[DragginWagon]

^^^^^^^^thats fucked up i would of fought that one ...

Every time I think about that bullshit I wish I would have brake checked that fucker!

[The_Main_Event]

Its pretty funny how I made this thread a while ago and just the end of last year I got pulled over by a undercover Challenger R/T. It was pretty cool he said my car was faster then his but I still got a ticket which sucked as the end result

[Boychiks]

I hope he at least won.. Lol

[08srt8Calgary]

You would be able to us entrapment to an extent, but you have to remember that if its just you and him- chances are your gonna lose. I dont race a ton, but I do like to goose it everywhere I go and I have a lawyer on retainer from 2 incidents that occurred with officers. Now In my case I was offered to have all points and charges dropped, but would pay all fines initially assessed. Both times was nothing more than a phone call for the lawyer which came to $350, and fines were are $300 for doing 40k over.

Lawyer told me tho that if it comes down to your word vs his- you'll lose as the cop will adjust the story while filling out his notebook during the stop, and make sure it sticks.